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Conference with Lyssa Royal
May 20, 1995
Question: Lyssa, is your last name a pen name?
Lyssa: It's my real name...a real ex-married name, I should
say!
Question: I am not terribly well-read on the subject of
UFOs, but I've seen a lot of theories as to why everyone else
in the galaxy has a huge, cooperative civilization with faster-than-light
travel, telepathy, and all this stuff. It all seems rather excessive
to account for a few night lights or whatever. I'm not saying
there is no one out there, but are they really as advanced as
some people seem to think and if so, how come we got left out
until now?
I think we watch too much Star Trek! We simply don't hear about
all the other civilizations like ours who can't communicate or
travel through time/space. I suspect that we haven't really been
left out but that rather we haven't either WANTED to be part of
contact until now or we haven't been ABLE to perceive contact
until now.
Who are the entities that you channel, Lyssa?
The one I channel primarily calls herself "Sasha." She
is featured in most of the books and claims to be a female from
the Pleiades. (Sasha isn't her real name. She says we would have
difficulty pronouncing it). One other entity calls himself "Germane"
who is a group consciousness and nonphysical. "He" gives
a very galactic and transformational perspective on things. They
are
the main ones. There are others that only occasionally make appearances.
They don't like to focus a lot on "who" they are. Instead,
they prefer to focus on the information they can share with us.
Do the channeled messages from Sasha and Germane
differ much from your own beliefs?
When I first started channeling I had a lot of questions and those
questions needed answers. That is why I became a channel, because
I needed to find those answers for myself. I'm glad others find
those answers interesting too. Over time, I learned from the ETs
about their perspectives and some of their info became part of
my own theories and research.
Lyssa, where in New Hampshire did you see your
first sighting?
It was 1979 outside of Exeter, NH. Exeter was known for a high
level of UFO activity, especially in the 1960s. Exeter is a town
very close to Betty and Barney Hills' home. [The Betty and Barney
Hill case from the 1960s was one of the first abduction cases
revealed to the public]. It was a snowy night in October and I
saw a big ball of orange/yellow light hovering in the woods across
from my house. A "tear drop of fire" dropped from it
and when I went outside it made a whirring noise that went from
a low intensity to a high intensity. Then it vanished. I was only
18 at the time and my father wouldn't let me chase after it!
Have you ever been abducted?
People ask this question a lot because they feel that in order
for me to have written the book Visitors from Within I must have
been. To tell you the truth, I am not sure, though I suspect if
I have, it isn't in the traditional "victim, scary"
sense. I have had missing time experiences and strange things
happen as well as weird body marks, but I don't know. I don't
prefer to interpret
my experiences that way.
Your father witnessed the UFO. Did he accept what
it was then? What about now?
I think it profoundly affected us all. Even though he tried to
convince me it was something conventional, we used to go looking
for UFOs when I was growing up! He didn't say much about it and
was scared for me because I was so interested. Today he knows
what I do and is somewhat interested. The irony is that since
1979 he has "accidentally" ran into people claiming
to have
been chased by a UFO on the same night we had our
sighting nearly 20 years ago!
You used to go looking for UFOs...Do you think
part of you knew what was going to happen to you?
Yes. I think part of me knew the path ahead. I have just had too
many UFO related experiences happen. The interest was just too
strong.
There is a part of EACH of us that knows what lies ahead on our
spiritual path. We just have to listen to that inner self.
Is it of intentional spiritual significance to have seen a UFO?
Is there a communication between us and the ETs when these sightings
happen, even though the craft might be miles away and just a dot
in the sky?
I do think there is a significance. However, I don't want people
to think it means that if you haven't seen a UFO that you are
spiritually depraved! There are indications that sightings have
a personal significance for the person who sees them and that
the ETs are or might be aware that they are being seen. A lot
more goes on than we realize and it doesn't necessarily conform
to
our linear view of reality or time/space.
What do you think about Barbara Marciniak's Pleiadian books? Are
you and your guides in accord with her channelings?
There are some very close correlations with some of Barbara's
information, though we do differ in style, form, and personality.
I've worked with her before and there does seem to be correlation
in some of our material, but not all.
How do you receive your channeling? Do you think
your skills are unique or is it something anyone
can learn?
I do what I call semi-conscious channeling. This means that I
don't leave my body, but I do go into an altered state. It feels
like I am asleep and dreaming and when I wake up it feels dreamlike.
I don't often remember what I've channeled. I chose to do it in
a semi-conscious state because I didn't want to leave my body
and miss all the fun! I wanted to benefit from the information
and the interactions with the audience. Yes, I do feel anyone
can do it, though some people seem to have made agreements prior
to birth. I was both contacted by an entity and formally trained
to channel. I do teach channeling and so I think it is a skill
anyone can learn. Some people are natural athletes and some people
have to work at it. Channels are the same.
Have you heard about Charles Silva's Pleiadian contacts or contacts
with Pleiadians who are blonde or Nordic looking?
Sasha says there are many different genotypes of Pleiadians, and
the Nordics are only one. She has described herself as being very
much like me in stature. She is about 5 foot tall, light skin,
light brown almond-shaped eyes and says that is average for her
genotype. The males can be small too (about 5'8") or large
as well. Her group has some Terran (Earth) genetics in them and
that is another whole complex story!
Have you ever had a sudden ringing in your ears and felt that
your ET friends were calling you or scanning your consciousness
to see what kind of day you are having?
I get all sorts of weird stuff that happens. Sometimes I attribute
it to "them," but often I just don't know. Sasha does
tend to pop in from time to time and give me a dissertation (with
my permission of course) on various topics of interest to me personally.
It is like having my own little online service in my head.
What do Sasha and Germane see for the immediate
future of Earth and its population?
In short, they feel we'll go through a difficult time as old paradigms
break down to make way for the new. However, it doesn't have to
be traumatic if we take responsibility for ourselves as a species
and our home planet. They say that earth changes are entirely
related to us and our state of consciousness. This means that
if we choose to clear ourselves by moving through our fears, learn
to handle our emotions, and take responsibility for our reality,
we won't need to manifest the big earth changes.
How do you feel physically after you channel?
Does the vibration of the entity affect you?
At first, when I learned to channel in 1984 I felt exhausted and
drained afterward and my body went through all sorts of uncomfortable
things like cramping in my hands and face. It wasn't a pretty
sight, I assure you! Now, after I channel I feel invigorated as
long as I've been channeling no longer than 1.5 - 2 hours at a
stretch. If I channel longer than that it feels uncomfortable
so I have to take breaks.
What constituted your personal proof of the
validity of your experiences and messages?
Of course personal proof is always a subjective thing. I had personal
revelations of things I had always wanted answers for. I had physical
craft sightings. However, the most profound is that lately the
info that I channeled for the book Preparing for Contact has begun
to come true. Sasha began outlining techniques and patterns to
the contact experience and I have begun following them, and my
research team has begun getting the results that she suggested
we would. That is tremendously exciting.
Sasha began telling me that soon we would begin seeing patterns
in our contact research--meaning that we would go out in the field
and the same type of low-level contacts would begin happening
over and over again. Then she said other research teams would
have the same results. It has begun happening. For instance, our
pattern is that once we set up our research site, we begin to
see what looks like "satellites." These very faint objects
traverse the sky but they make strange changes in trajectory and
when we signal them with 500,000 candle power halogen lights,
they signal back in response.
This is now a predictably pattern and other research teams are
experiencing it as well. When the objects return the signals,
they illuminate to the brightness of Sirius or so. What is so
notable to me is that from the high orbit these objects seem to
be traversing, they can't see a light such as the ones we are
using to signal. Therefore, we believe they are responding to
our consciousness rather than our lights. This gives credence
to our theories that consciousness is the unifying field and the
common ground upon which we can meet.
Isn't there a danger of group abduction?
Our research teams believe in the old "like attracts like"
philosophy. We know that if we put out a certain frame of mind,
we will attract only productive, positive experiences. This state
of mind/heart must not only be embraced mentally, but emotionally
as well. Because of this, it requires time as a group to emotionally
process unrecognized fears before we are ever able to be ready
to become vulnerable in the field. This type of research isn't
for everyone. So far in the field research we haven't had any
"abductions" .... at least that we know of!
Are these beings in our dimension, or are they in
another dimension?
Sasha claims to have a physical body, but not in the way we know
physicality. She says her reality is in what she calls "fourth
density." This means that her body is more light than ours,
and our realities are not yet totally compatible, though she could
make herself visible through technological devices if she needed
to. So, as we transform ourselves and evolve, we become more "light"
... and are more able to match their frequency.
It seems like a great many of us have Pleiadian connections and
my material suggests that we have some very ancient genetic ties
to the Pleiadians, which is a long story.
Lyssa, I recently read your book Visitors from Within and it was
very good. It really helped alleviate a lot of the fear that I
had. I am working with a person who does not believe in aliens
and at the age of 80 has started having abduction experiences.
How can I help her resolve these experiences?
I suspect that even though it may seem like she just started the
experiences, that she has had them all along. You might want to
do some regressive work with her to first bring them out into
the open, if that is not too traumatic for her. If she says she
doesn't believe in aliens, it might be just a defense mechanism
that you must allow her to maintain for her sanity. But as you
work with her, she'll gradually validate her experiences by herself.
As you know, there is a denial stage and that stage is important
for the abductee to feel so they can feel in control. Honor this
in her but still be there for her and she will make her own conclusions
at some point. Also, it isn't necessary for aliens to be real
or abductions to be true for the therapeutic effects of your work
to have value. The mind often plays out many archetypal scenarios
whose validation in physical reality is not necessary for healing
to take place. The ancients (and the native peoples) knew this
and encouraged these healing processes to take place through ritual
ceremony, vision quests, and the type of deep emotional processing
through imagery that today's professionals label "primitive"
or "superstitious."
Can you discuss time travel, Pleiadian style?
I'll try to talk about it in a simplistic way so our linear minds
can understand. Sasha, being from our future approx 300 years
ahead, says that the way she time travels is to make an emotional
connection with someone, some thing, or some event. This emotional
connection serves as an anchor that can draw her or her people
here.
Do you think Earth will left from 3D to 4D? Is
that the end of the world as we "know"
it?
The "end of the world" is really only the end of a paradigm.
It doesn't mean death, only change. Aren't we all really ready
for that?
If a craft lands in your back yard, tell me how do you know who
is who? Who is on the Light Team and who is on the Dark Team?
How suspicious should one be if this happens? I don't want to
greet the bad guys -- ZAP! We could become TOAST or worse.
It really isn't just black and white. It is like saying all Russians
or Iraqis are bad. They aren't all bad, and sometimes you can't
tell from a distance. So, I think what we really need to be concerned
about is how WE present OURSELVES as citizens of Earth. We must
be the best ambassadors and representatives that we can...hold
our own light...and trust that when we hold that light or good
intention that we will only attract what is best for us. A negative
encounter always teaches us about ourselves, and that isn't such
a bad thing, either. All we have is our own integrity. If we sit
in our homes in fear, we'll never evolve. Those of us who are
pioneers must still take the chance. Even in times of war, America
still needs ambassadors to the "enemy". Since we cannot
control another, all we have is ourselves and it is up to us to
create the kind of future we wish that isn't based in fear.
Sasha says that once we go "up there," we won't find
a great differentiation between the races and species. It matters
little to them. Our fears are our own, and they are based on our
limited perceptions of reality. What we think we perceive about
"them" is only a reflection of us, so our own evolution
is crucial before we enter a vast galactic neighborhood that is
teeming with life. In
all matters on earth or in space, we must act with dignity and
integrity, respecting all life. With such a responsibility, there
is no place for actions based in fear. Fear is the anchor that
will keep us from the next frontier.
-- Lyssa Royal
May 20, 1995
CompuServes UFO Forum, Online Conference
This transcript is copyright 1998 by Royal Research International.
It may be quoted or distributed freely as long as the source is
noted. Royal Research International and Royal Priest Research,
PO Box 30973, Phoenix, Arizona 85046. E-Mail: mail-2-rpr@royalpriest.com
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